Thursday, 17 May 2012

"But...but...THREE SETS!"

A couple of items concerning theft in the Christchurch red-zone have hit the news recently. Firstly the case of Victor Tupotahi Jackson who stole around $23,000 worth of merchandise while working as a contractor and secondly an as of yet unnamed police officer who was accused of stealing sunglasses from a store.

Jackson wound up in jail for 2 years with a $6000 reparation bill as the police recovered about $17,000 worth of goods. The police officer was not convicted because "Officers' fingerprints are recorded for elimination purposes, but it is not lawful for these to be used for any other purpose.  As a result the decision was made, reluctantly, that charges could not be brought against the constable."

Sounds fairly standard - though one does wonder if the officer should have faced a charge at least. But some commentator/blogger thought there was something odd about this and wrote a piece about the two cases - drawing them together in a baffling manner.

It was this quote on The Standard which got me thinking:


So I posted back - hoping  to clarify the confusion (note: the linked $36000 related to reports from April 2012):




After receiving no response and my curiosity growing I replied directly to the blog posting:



The Jackal responded with recent link clarifying the amount stolen by Jackson but the missing sunglasses went from three to at least six:


I mistyped and wrote "$24,000" instead of "$23,000" not that it changed the point. Following up with another comment, I wondered about where those extra sunglasses had appeared from. As you can see I received a stern warning for my outrageous adherence to facts.

In the next post Jackal iterated the issue was in fact about the policeman getting away with apparent theft followed by the issue of race:


For the record, I don't want to get involved in racial disputes. It is counter-productive and I find it brings the worst out of people so I wanted sidestep that particular point while not avoiding it - but still addressing the other points raised:

No more of these silly questions:


 Ahhhh, well. Perhaps I should ask if he thought these were $8000 magic sunglasses?



The Jackal actually did make amends to his error though:

Criminal A merely got away with $6000. Right, that fixes everything. Hell, if I go on a shooting spree one day I have a wonderful defence. "Not to worry judge, while I tried to kill 26 people I only actually killed six."
Is this what they call attempted theft? I would have pointed out this wonderful inconsistency but for:

But why does this matter? What is gained from bothering some poor fool who no one listens to on the back-ends of the internet? The reason this matters is because the commentator in question posts this sort of thing on sites that have a wide audience (like The Standard). Gibberish like this gets promulgated, regurgitated and spat out as truth. Even by people who should know better. And no one cares about actually doing their research, all they want is a convenient excuse, no matter how fanciful, to shore up their preconceived biases.

It is something I find quite absurd, hilarious and angering all at the same time.

UPDATE AS OF 18 MAY 2012

Seems The Jackalman wasn't too appreciative of my deconstruction concerning his dishonesty and bullshit claims so he has decided to retort with a strawman. Hilariously though he links to a video wherein the Police confirm that 3 pairs of sunglasses were stolen. Ahhh well buddy, better luck next time.

7 comments:

  1. The Jackal doesn't like people pointing out errors in his posts. He blocked me for this too. I was in no way offensive (in fact, he was the one who threw the insults). I guess disagreeing with him is 'conduct unbecoming'.

    "If conduct is unbecoming and offensive, a warning will be given. If this warning is not adhered to, the Jackal team will block your posting privileges."

    He's just alienating himself - if he won't even let people with the same political leanings (like me) disagree with him.

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    1. People just want echo chambers where they can be right all the time and no one will question them. It is an extremely dishonest way of communicating but it is kinda fun to drag them into the light

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  2. I'd advise staying away from him he is a very odd and angry chap from up North and is one of the many at that bog who live in a very angry blinkered world.

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  3. Liberal Minded Kiwi31 May 2012 04:41

    That is how the Jackel works. An angry bitter bloke, ask Whale Oil about him, he figured out who he was and what he does. Ignore him, it's no loss!

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  4. I see you have taken to arguing the merits of sex education at The Standard with the likes of DTB - thought you might be interested in its views on sex on an earlier thread.

    http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-31052012/comment-page-1/#comment-477248

    DTB is one seriously fucked up idealogue.

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    1. Yeah is a very strange person indeed

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